Showing posts with label inequality. Show all posts
Showing posts with label inequality. Show all posts

class dismissed author interview

Wed 4.11.12 | Education and Inequality | Against the Grain: A Program about Politics, Society and Ideas:  It seems logical: if you don't have enough education your economic prospects will be diminished, while those who have a lot are able to succeed in our purportedly knowledge-based economy. But what if that's only partially accurate? John Marsh posits that economic inequality and poverty are not causally connected to differing levels of education. He argues that we need to reject the appealing notion of education as a cure-all and look deeper at class power and structural inequality.
For Their Own Good
Against the Grain radio show has an interview with John Marsh on the popular idea that more education will somehow fix the poverty issue. Most recently, there has been a huge push to raise compulsory attendance laws and many states have done so. The reason usually cited is that drop outs do worse on lifetime earnings and therefore, heavy police tactics to keep kids in school is actually helping them.

It is another instance where lawmakers and the schools themselves rely on policing and authoritarian practices instead of figuring why kids drop out and working with them to make system changes. Compulsory attendance laws have eliminated that feedback loop, the mechanism that makes businesses listen to their customers (though we have corporations lacking that mechanism as well).

It is, of course, clearly a matter of money as schools have tied attendance to funding and raising compulsory attendance laws at a time when states have cut school funding is clearly a way to raise revenues. Concern for the welfare of young people is not the motivation in the US where we have large numbers of teens sentenced within the justice ... penal system ... as adults every year.

Schooling and Poverty
John Holt wrote about the impossibility of schools changing inequality is his essay, "Schooling and Poverty." 
"The word 'poverty' is too general, too vague. Let me try to make it more concrete by suggesting that it has three parts: employment, income, and material standard of life. A man feels poor and is poor when he has a bad job or no job, lacks money, and can't get the things he needs. ... 
In short the schools, whether by what they teach or the amount of degrees they give out, do not determine and cannot change the shape of the job pyramid. The number of jobs that exist, and the goodness or badness of these jobs and the amount of money they pay, are independent of the schools, the things they teach there, the number of people who are learning them.
It would be the most hard-headed economic and political realism for us to guarantee and provide to every American man, woman, or child, an income on which he can live decently and comfortably, whether he has a 'job' or not." 
More on Class Dismissed 
Class Dismissed :: Monthly Review Press:   "In Class Dismissed, John Marsh debunks a myth cherished by journalists, politicians, and economists: that growing poverty and inequality in the United States can be solved through education. Using sophisticated analysis combined with personal experience in the classroom, Marsh not only shows that education has little impact on poverty and inequality, but that our mistaken beliefs actively shape the way we structure our schools and what we teach in them.

Rather than focus attention on the hierarchy of jobs and power—where most jobs require relatively little education, and the poor enjoy very little political power—money is funneled into educational endeavors that ultimately do nothing to challenge established social structures, and in fact reinforce them. And when educational programs prove ineffective at reducing inequality, the ones whom these programs were intended to help end up blaming themselves. Marsh’s struggle to grasp the connection between education, poverty, and inequality is both powerful and poignant."

And an interview with Marsh is here:
'Class Dismissed' | Inside Higher Ed:

"Regarding inequality, I would point to the findings of Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, who have shown that people who live in more equal countries live demonstrably better lives than those who live in less equal countries. In more equal countries, people — rich and poor alike — live longer, trust each other more, discriminate against women less, devote more resources to foreign aid, have fewer bouts of mental illness, use fewer drugs, murder each other less, have lower rates of infant mortality, suffer less from obesity, are more literate and numerate, complete more years of schooling, imprison fewer people, and enjoy greater social mobility. People in more equal countries even have fewer fistfights than people in less equal countries. As an English professor, I enjoy a good fistfight as much as the next person, but I think we could safely get by with fewer of them." via Blog this' 
background
learning about inequality: gapminder
blaming families, juvenile justice edition
schools could help us address poverty
voluntary attendance
the compulsory attendance mindset
side effects of the literacy factory model
make public schools truly public
what's wrong with the schools?
participatory democracy in schools

learning about wealth inequality: gapminder

Adding to my recent post about wage inequality, Hans Rosling's Gapminder has resources for learning about inequalities and statistics.  You can download the Gapminder desktop app, no Internet required, view Joy of Stats, or download a card game that works in conjunction with their graphs. And there's  Google Motion Chart , note that  (R-bloggers has more links). I link to the energetic Rosling's video below about human rights and democracy, a discussion of the limits of a purely quantitative view of the development Rosling so aptly illustrates and shares.  (Though perhaps we just not measuring these things yet -  check out Paul Butler's Visualizing Friendships map in hi-res).  

I note this because Rosling often generalizes and schools can seem like an unmitigated good.  This is the popular point of view in the US and among the wealthier and aspiring classes.  Education and literacy are such high ideals that their dark side, and all things make a shadow, are overlooked.  We must see these defects clearly to ensure we have systems that are more humane and more democratic.

Schools can be undertaken by developing societies and they can contribute a lot at first:  jobs in  building and staffing and new resources for children and families.  But these positives will turn negative if schools persist in the design flaws that the US has discovered in its public school system: compulsory attendance and the factory model.  The focus and interests of those who depend on the school system for jobs (testing corporations, large central offices, local, state and Federal governmental employees: all have an interest in continuing the system as it is) are different than the focus and interests of the kids and families trying to use these services.  


Compulsory attendance has ensured that few schools actually pay attention to the users of the school; it isn't the mindset. The factory model has ensured that schools arrange students in peer groups that are large and has become an unhealthy social experiment showing up even in Sweden.  These are a structural conflicts of poor system design since families naturally have strong interest in helping their children. 

Other countries can learn about these more long-term consequences of poor system design in the school policies in the US.  This is especially important for large countries with diverse populations like the US.  Smaller, more well-managed countries that are quite homogeneous like those in parts of Europe may not feel the impact of these aspects nearly as fast.

As Rosling points out, the word developing is somewhat outdated:  everything has changed, lots of places are now developed.  To that end, we are now coping with huge systemic breakdowns in the financial and social systems so rapidly put in place around the globe. The focus on sustainability which demands we examine systems often with an eye to effects are officially unmeasured but present.

There is a lack of understanding of women and children in our health system's inability to comprehend the complexity of normal birth as well as in the school system's inability to grasp the importance of the social relationships and failure to discern human differences in learning and knowing.  Social services should be humane, comfortable and productive for human beings.  The undemocratic treatment of children and families in schools is unnecessary. Schools could work through our human relationships and not against them.



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education (aka mass schooling) is not the answer to wage inequality

In Brief:  The schools were never designed to function as a jobs program, wage inequality has grown, and calls for youth to all pay money for a BA will not fix the problem.

Open Economics has a piece,  discussing the power gap, based on Lawrence Mishel's paper,  Education is Not the Cure for High Unemployment or Income Inequality.  which examines how education will not be the answer to the unemployment problem (China has large numbers of college grads who are unemployed).  One quote from the paper:
Together, these trends suggest that the forthcoming supply of college graduates is meeting the growing demands of employers for such workers. Moreover, these trends suggest that a rapid expansion of the supply of college graduates will cause the wages of college graduates to decline, assuming that the productivity–pay gap continues unabated. We can expect the wages of young college graduates and male college graduates (whose wages are currently in decline) to experience the steepest declines. 
That may or may not be a desirable outcome, but it is definitely not the outcome that most people would expect given the claims that graduating many more people from college will prevent a rise of inequality or reduce inequality.
 and the author concludes (emphasis mine):
The challenge, in my view, is to provide a much broader path to prosperity, one that encompasses those at every education level. The nation’s productivity has grown a great deal in the last 30 years, up 80% from 1979 to 2009, and such productivity growth or better can be expected in the future. Yet with all the income generated in the past and expected in the future it is difficult to explain why more people have not seen rapid income growth. It is not the economy that has limited or will limit strong income growth, but rather the economic policies pursued and the distribution of economic and political power that are the limiting factor.

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As the studies show, just getting more people a BA will not fix this problem.  Unaddressed by these discussions of BA, yes or no, is the question of our new and problematic reliance on schooling as job training and placement.  Is this a sustainable and healthy system of providing jobs?  Never before in US history have Americans had to depend solely on a centralized education structure for jobs:  training was diverse and local when most jobs were agricultural or local businesses and schools provided a broad base of skills for most, a road to advanced training for some, and not a system of credentialing -- which the calls for universal BAs would imply it is now.

And now we have allowed the schools, instead of providing a free service to citizens, to flip that and require that citizens begin to pay the schools for additional training after 12 long years. That is a significant change and an ominous one.

Meanwhile, my post on one company's hiring policies shows a way companies can make entry paths for a wider variety of employees.  Zoho finds these employees do well.


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